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Sunscreen causing ring around the collar

stbonner
16 years ago

About three months ago I traded my old TL for a new Bosch Next 500 FL washer. At the same time I changed from using Tide detergent to either Charlie's Soap or Bi-O-Kleen detergents. When I wash white clothes I add Oxyclean to the detergent. I have been very happy with my wash results with one exception - my husband's white t-shirts have developed nasty orange ring around the collar. I'm sure these stains are from sunscreens, as he usually wears these shirts when he is fishing and he always wears sunscreen when out in the sun.

With my old washer and detergent I could see a faint yellowish discoloration on his older t-shirts, but with my new washer I am seeing a very distinct orange stain that shows up even on new shirts.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I'm not sure if my new washer or my new detergents are to blame. Other than this white t-shirt issue I am very happy with my new washer, as I feel that my clothes are cleaner and look better than when washed in my old washer. Suggestions, anyone?

Comments (28)

  • asolo
    16 years ago

    I've always had good results with Shout or Spray-'n'-Wash pretreat.

  • gin_gin
    16 years ago

    Does his sunscreen have any self tanner in it? That stuff will cause an orange stain.

  • stbonner
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    No, there is no self tanner in the sunscreen. In fact, the collars don't turn orange until after they are washed and dried. With my old machine and detergent the collars would eventually turn a little bit yellow, but never orange - so I think the orange collar is coming either from the more natural detergents or from the higher temperatures that my new washer uses for washing.

  • paprika
    16 years ago

    Is he using Coppertone? That brand will turn things orange. Have him try another brand. I use Banana Boat without any sort of issue.

    If the stains are appearing after washing, it's possibly due to the oil of the sunscreen not being totally washed out. That could explain why it has gotten worse since you stopped using Tide, as it's a good detergent for removing grease stains. Try rewetting the shirts, spray the orange areas with some WD-40 and then rub in some Dawn dishwashing liquid (it's a grease cutter). Wash again. That works on grease stains in general, so it might work here.

    If the t-shirts are pure white, you could also try using Rit Color Remover.

  • cmc_97
    16 years ago

    Nisi, good explanation about avobenzone and iron causing stains. I had the same problem and stopped using avobenzone products and switched to products containing titanium dioxide or zinc oxide.

    The avovebezone is a UVA ray blocker. UVA rays are the skin-damaging rays that lead to skin cancer. UVB ray blockers prevent you from tanning as quickly, but do not block UVA rays. Ideally, you want a sunscreen that blocks both UVA and UVB rays.

    The only three ingredients approved by the FDA that can protect skin from UVA damage are avobenzone, titanium dioxide, and zinc oxide. Avobenzone may appear on labels as butyl methoxydibenzoylmethane. (Outside of the US, Tinosorb and Mexoryl SX are also UVA-protecting ingredients.)

    If you're going to avoid avobenzone, then look for sunscreens that use titanium oxide or zinc oxide.

    I like Paula's Secret products (I buy them online) because they are unscented and don't have that awful (to me) sunscreen perfume scent. Some of the sunscreen products do not contain avobenzone (for example "Extra Care Moisturizing Sunscreen SPF 30+" and "Essential Moisturizing Sunscreen SPF 15 With Antioxidants"). All the ingredients are listed on the web site.

    CMC

    Here is a link that might be useful: Paula's Secret Sunscreens

  • stbonner
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    Wow! Great information y'all! Thanks so much for the replies. This solves the mystery of why this is happening now and didn't in all the years previous. I've been buying sunscreens with the UVA/UVB blockers this year, as that is what my dermatologist recommended. I think I'll try the ALL or FAB detergents before I switch sunscreens, since ring-around-the-collar is unsightly but at least doesn't cause cancer or premature wrinkling. Again, thanks for the great replies.

  • stbonner
    Original Author
    16 years ago

    BTW, I did try the Spray N Wash and it worked great. I will also try the detergents suggested. Thanks everyone.

  • gordoco
    16 years ago

    A resounding "me too!" So any ideas what might cause so much iron in the water? Rusty pipes? Crud in the water heater? Bad water from the well?

  • charliesoap
    16 years ago

    stbonner: I might have a solution, but I don't want to be a commercial and blurt it out here.

  • sue36
    14 years ago

    I realize this is an old post, but the exact same thing happened to me. New white shirt worn on July 4th, orange stains appears around the neck and at the chest. I've washed it 5 times so far (regular wash, White Out, White Out, Oxy, Oxy). So far the stains haven't budged. Very frustrating.

  • cherylpi76
    13 years ago

    I have the same problem with my clothes. We have a lot of iron in our water even though we have a water softner. I just found that avobenzone is in all of my moisturizers that I use so now that explains why my clothes are turning orange around the necklines. The only thing that I found that takes the iron stains out of WHITE clothing is to soak them in "IRON OUT". You can't use it on colored clothing because it will take the color out.

  • stbonner
    Original Author
    13 years ago

    I have switched to physical sunscreens instead of chemical sunscreens, and have no more problems with staining of clothes. I avoid Avobenzone and instead use sunscreens with zinc oxide and titanium dioxide instead.

  • bevbran
    13 years ago

    To remove those orange avobenzone stains, try The Works bathroom spray cleaner. I have not had luck with the usual pre-wash sprays, but The Works seems to...work! :-) The Works is kind of hard to find. We get it at Menards.

  • krcherry8_hotmail_com
    12 years ago

    I would try using something like My Clean Shirt it seems to work on all the common stains so, Im thinking it would be worth a shot. You could alway try bleech, but that stuff is so harsh on fabric. I think the My Clean Shirt URL is http://www.mycleanshirt.com
    Good Luck!

    Here is a link that might be useful: My Clean Shirt

  • chefchris69_comcast_net
    12 years ago

    i tried everything, pre treating, soaking in tide, dish detergent, wd-40( which lightened it). nothing took it out completely.
    Then i tried Lysol toilet bowl cleaner POWER lime and rust. soaked my stains in that and then washed normally and EVERY single stain came out. hope this helps. only took 12 loads to figure it out

  • timtrismaggie_hotmail_com
    12 years ago

    I have well water with lots of iron in the water. It stains whites even without sunscreen. So I use OxyClean. That works for everyday whites. But, if you have well water, do not use oxyclean on your whites if they have come into contact with sunscreen containing avobenzone, because you will get the awful orange stains that DO NOT COME OUT. I have found that Johnson's baby daily face & body lotion with SPF 40, does not stain. It contains 100% naturally sourced ingredients and has uva/uvb protection. And its tear free. The downside? Not labeled as waterproof.

  • blazenstella_yahoo_com
    12 years ago

    Thank you for explaining this mystery. I knew I had iron in my water & suspected my sunscreen of causing stains, but never put the 2 together until now.

    Here's my problem - just returned from a week at the beach with brand new clothes I am certain have sunscreen residue on them.

    So, I've kept these shirts out of my regular laundry and will take them to the laundromat - which has city water - in hopes of removing the sunscreen rather than chancing it in my washer. Any suggestions on how to ensure the removal of the sunscreen?

    What a bummer - I finally found a sunscreen I like & that keeps my very pale complexion from turning lobster colored. Back to the drawing board.

  • bermudagirl_yahoo_com
    12 years ago

    Here in Penna you can find "The Works" toilet bowl cleaner at Weis grocery store. It is not the spray version though. On the bright side you can buy if here for about $2 - so it is really cheap. I am gong to try using that on my organge stains. thanks for the tips!

  • audra_audracoldiron_com
    12 years ago

    I just found the answer!!! I couldn't get these awful orange stains out and on a hunch I tried applying grapefruit juice concentrate. I waited a half hour or so, washed them in a pot with dish detergent and they totally came out!!! I'm so excited I had to share this inexpensive and natural solution. :-)

  • christine-rapp_web_de
    12 years ago

    @ Audra - thank you! I had no grapefruit juice concentrate so I tried applying lemon juice - it worked!!

  • girschmidt_gmail_com
    12 years ago

    Is avobenzone the same as oxybenzone?

  • livebetter
    12 years ago

    @Theresa, NO.

    While avobenzone has long been one of the best UVA absorbers available, it has had to be combined with other ingredients (such as octocrylene and oxybenzone) to remain effective for any extended length of time. On its own, since it was not photostable, it broke down after a relatively short period when exposed to sunlight.

  • horishny_saturnnet_com
    12 years ago

    Excellent posts, thank you for sharing your experiments and experiences. I have a couple of shirts where I'm noticing the discoloration my sunscreens (all 4 types have oxybenzone and avobenzone in them)have created,guess I'll have to quit looking for just price and SPF factor now :-p

    Off to try a cleaning suggestion....

  • MiMi
    12 years ago

    I have just got thru dealing with this issue.. it was on my husband's favorite White, Margarataville Tank top from Hawaii.. so I tried everything to get it out.. the ONLY thing that worked was spray CLR bathroom clenaer.. Zout did nothing, Spray N Wash did nothing.. I had read on a post that the cleaners for bath tubs work so tried the CLR and it works.. it really does, the tank is spotless white again..

  • Cavimum
    12 years ago

    We have used a variety of sunscreens over the years, and there is no doubt that some of that had - or still have - the ingredients mentioned above that are considered the culprits. I always pre-treat with Shout, let sit a couple of minutes, and then toss in the wash. Often these shirts (all cottons as well as poly wicking fabrics) sat a week before they were treated & washed.
    For the past several years, our only detergents were All F&C and Charlies Soap. The ring around the collar, on DH's shirts, from sunscreen never became an issue.

  • bjmoen
    8 years ago

    Bevbran: Can you use The Works on colored clothing too or will it take out the color?

  • Kyle Waters
    8 years ago

    For those that used lemon and grapefruit, citric acid is a good chelator, meaning it grabs on to cations ie Metals. That is why it is used in washing machine cleaners.