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Renovation of Kitchen - Questions Regarding Backsplash and Couters

degarthy
26 days ago

My kitchen (generally) was originally renovated in 2003. Since then, I decided to at least have the cabinets painted (misty blue) because they are still in good shape and I am fine with the layout.

Here's what I would like to do and am seeking some advice on product / material/ color schemes, etc.

1. The cabinets are a very light blue (sherwin williams - misty).

2. The current backsplash complements the cabinets very well (with threads of blue, grey, creme color, and white).

3. I want to replace the counter tops and the backsplash.

4. The 1st image is something I am considering as I like the way the stones reflect the contrast: grey-blue-white.

5. The last (4) images reflect the current kitchen.

6. I am looking for suggestions on the countertop material to use. I do not want dark colors because the kitchen is very small (in a condo). I used a really nice quality porcelain in my 2 bathrooms when I renovated in 2017 and it has a beautiful quality...similar to matte marble (on the floor) and polished marble (on the walls).

7. Would a really top-quality porcelain work in this kitchen's countertops with a subway (range of colors) as the backsplash?

8. The lighting is bad for the actual colors of the cabinets. I have uploaded the actual color card for the kitchen cabinets.

9. All help would be much appreciated.

the "sherwin williams" misty color.







Comments (52)

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    26 days ago

    Thanks so veyr much. Well, the floors look much better in person. Just had them replaced to the tune of 18K. The rest of our home is in the beige, bone, brown family. The kitchen is a little off (as well as the bathrooms). Swapping the floors out is not really an option for us.


    Here is a better image of the dining room floors, adjacent to the kitchen (pass through). Ignore the junk....house cleaning right now.


    Do you have any other ideas regarding backsplash? And, countertops for the kitchen? I thought the very small tiles were being replaced with subway-type tiles.



  • Chessie
    26 days ago

    Leave the backsplash. Replace the island and countertop. I don't care for the brown flooring but that's up to you.

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  • degarthy
    Original Author
    26 days ago

    The flooring is Palmetto Road (Riviera Collection - Bardot French Oak.

  • herbflavor
    26 days ago
    last modified: 26 days ago

    Like the floors...lean into the warmth..take yourselves out to the stoneyard locally and look at granite. bring samples home. a gorgeous stone will really work with the all white cabinetry.


    heres a green for example...

    Pines Home · More Info


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  • degarthy
    Original Author
    26 days ago

    Thanks everyone for your feedback. So, would the countertops need to be white for this kitchen OR would another color be better to attempt to integrate with the French Oak flooring?

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    26 days ago

    I am now looking for a kitchen designer who can assist me with this project.

  • PRO
    JAN MOYER
    26 days ago

    You are in two palettes.

    The Misty is far too cool with the flooring , which is warm and red.

    You'd have been far better off with a very soft WHITE on the cabinets, or a warm green.

    You choose tops, cabinet finish and color in conjunction with one another. You don't cling to a backsplash.

    Piecemeal selections will kill you every time. The walls look gray, and that isn't working with the Misty paint, either.

    Get a designer, and go together to a stone shop, after you first consider fixing the cabinet error, together: )

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  • degarthy
    Original Author
    26 days ago

    Jan....I am smiling to myself because after reflecting I believe the previous color was more along the grey family. Not sure that would have worked either. So, I am hoping to connect with a designer to see how to best correct this problem. My girlfriend is yelling: NO!! you paid a lot to have those cabinets painted. I think the decision is in: The cabinet color will have to go.


    I am now "slowing my roll" and backing off until I can find a designer and we can map out a plan. I love my home. Not planning to sell anytime soon, so I have time to make the corrections. My spouse and I do love the floors as our home is very warm. The kitchen palette was fine until we changed the floors (more cherry) and changed the color of the cabinets.

  • PRO
    Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
    26 days ago

    I love your floor, and think you could use some warmth in the backsplash and counter tops. See if you can post some inspiration photos, you don't necessarily need to change the cabinet color, unless my monitor is not rendering the color accurately. It looks white to me.

    A wood counter top on the island could add some warmth:


    Summer School (Cape Cod, MA) · More Info


    Studio City LEED Gold New Home · More Info

    Maybe wood on the ceiling too?

    Custom Modern Barn · More Info


    White kitchen · More Info

    No to the backsplash you posted. Try something colorful, like green/blue/etc.

    Navy blue:


    Concord Avenue · More Info


    West HIlls - Kitchen · More Info

    turquoise!

    Mediterranean Kitchen · More Info

    Love this green!

    eco+historical Downey · More Info


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  • HU-121436380
    26 days ago

    Generally, the 4” backsplash is removed if the remainder of the wall is tiled.

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    26 days ago

    Will share some inspirations in the next comments

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    26 days ago

    Possibilty of contiguous backsplash with countertops?


    Contemporain Cuisine - Contemporary - Kitchen - Paris | Houzz

  • PRO
    JAN MOYER
    26 days ago

    Look here:

    I see beige chairs, ivory/beige rug, and ( pale gray ? ) walls? I also see ice cold 4000 k lighting?

    I bet the same cold lighting is washing the Misty to near icy white in your kitchen, as Diana mentioned " They look white" They do.....and they appear a cool white

    Nonetheless? I stand by what I said. You're in two palettes, made harsher by the floor and cabinet color fight.

    I would put no focus on the backsplash, the riser should have come off before the tile was installed, anyway. Free yourself from it, there are many sensational tops, and as many that could go right up that back splash........ NO tile necessary.

    Last? Gray walls. Maybe let that go too : )

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  • degarthy
    Original Author
    26 days ago

    Thanks so much for the feedback. In 2022 we suffered a tremendous damage due to frozen pipes and had to make quick decisions in the absence of a designer. Out of our home for months.

    The images do not do our home justice. It is warm and beautiful and we love it.

    The walls in the rest of the house are far from grey…. More in the taupe / beige family. The kitchen is definitely the wrong color. And it needs to be painted. Maybe as someone said: the same color as the cabinets.

    Just as designers are artists, I, too, am an artist: a creative photographer. And, the one thing I have learned is that “it’s OK to paint outside the lines”. So, I have broken a few “design” rules by introducing 2 palettes. But, I am OK with that because when I stand in my kitchen I don’t feel the disconnect you reference.

    1. I do see the need to change the bad mess of lighting and repaint the kitchen the color or the cabinets. The LEDs are mixed and maybe you can recommend a different kind of lighting.

    2. I agree the countertops can form a continuous backsplash without using tile. I think tile will actually create more fragmentation.

    3. I love my floors. Lots of folks do. Just installed. Not going away. Will have to find countertops that being them in and create somewhat of an integration point between the current cabinets and the floor.

    4. Bad design decisions to designers. I am sure. But, my cabinets were just painted to the tune of $4000. At that time I had no intention of replacing the countertops. And if it is impossible to “minimize the design conflicts” at a reasonable cost, then I will remain with what I have.

    You see as an artistic photographer, lots of folks show up for “me to transform them”. I take them with all their physical blemishes and do what I can to lift them in the way in which my art can. Most walk away feeling better than when they arrive…. we collaborate on an outcome…. It may not be perfect, but it is far better than the raw material that presented itself.

    I am a constrained homeowner that is asking for guidance. My constraints are:

    1. I love my floors. All $18k worth.
    2. My cabinets were painted 3 months ago. $4k

    Those are constraints / my blemishes. Not looking for a lecture on “those”. They are constants.

    And, if from your perspective you see that there is no salvation because of my constraints, thank you and I appreciate the silence.

    In Light,

    Carolyn

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    26 days ago

    The color of my walls throughout the rest of the condo.

  • PRO
    Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
    26 days ago

    You seem to like a very cool palette, after viewing the kitchens in your links.

    You could marry the cool of the kitchen and warm of the rest of the house with a stone that has both. Calacatta marble or Imperial Danby can have both gray and beige veining. You could start there.

    Calacatta:

    Arbor Cove · More Info


    Arbor Cove · More Info


    Arbor Cove · More Info


    https://www.stonecontact.com/imperial-danby-marble/s7243

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  • degarthy
    Original Author
    26 days ago

    Beautiful 💜💜

    Thank you so very much💜💜

  • PRO
    Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
    25 days ago

    Of the four you linked, the Calacatta Lucca would be my choice. But of course you need to see everything together in person.

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  • degarthy
    Original Author
    25 days ago

    Diana, I thank you for your thoughtful feedback and your patience. I love the Marble you shared, but just wondering how difficult it would be to maintain. Any special considerations for the kitchen (and marble)? I keep hearing quartz and porcelain might be better choices. I do want something that has the brown / gold veins to, as you suggested, tie the cabinets and floor together.


    I also am considering painting the kitchen a softer white (but only after the selection of the countertop / wall material. Will also swap out the kitchen lights. Right now I have a hodgepodge of "cold" and "warm" LEDs. Never got around to swapping them to one color temperature, but planned. The mixture is what's throwing the images off.


    I am not enamored with a "cool" kitchen. My choices were trying to map back to the cabinets and I was leaving out the flooring. So, thank you so very much for the reminder of the countertop needing to integrate the two as much as possible. :-)


    In gratitude,

    Carolyn

  • PRO
    Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
    25 days ago

    I understand your dilemma, Carolyn. As to the question of the functionality of marble, that's a whole other discussion.


  • degarthy
    Original Author
    25 days ago

    I really like this one.

  • PRO
    Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
    25 days ago

    Contact the company and see if they have a distributor or showroom near you.

    If not, go to a stone yard and ask if they have anything like it. There's no substitute to seeing it all in person--you have to do the legwork. Or you hire someone to do it for you :)

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    25 days ago

    I plan to go and see the tile. Thanks so much.

  • A M
    25 days ago

    My cabinets are also painted SW Misty. I have Shadow Storm marble on my perimeter counters with a vzag backsplash. My island base is painted SW Anchors Aweigh, with a butcher block top that helps bring down some of the coolness. It seems to work ok in my space.

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    25 days ago

    A M that sounds wonderful. Thanks so much.

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    25 days ago

    Fresh thoughts this morning.

    I am going to gradually rein this project back in for a reset.

    I hear the feedback on the disconnect between the misty cabinets and the warmth of the floors.

    I am considering the following combinations (countertop swap out first of Calacatta quartz) and later a repaint of the cabinets in this family of colors.

    Thoughts?

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    25 days ago

    Wrong counter image but similar to calacatta gold.

    Of course the walls will need to be replaced as well. This will be a gradual process, but with a wholistic plan😊😊

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    25 days ago

    Wall color….

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    24 days ago

    I think this is the one….the fabricator sent me the photos today. Going to check it out myself tomorrow.

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    22 days ago

    Visited the quartz warehouse this morning with the contractor. Right now we are looking at the quartz in the attached photos as the based product. It has a gold veins encircled with greyish blue veins that will marry the cabinets and the floors. No samples available because this quartz is new.

    Once the counters are in, we will decide if we want to paint the island (and the color).

    Will make the island decision while we are determining the best color for the kitchen walls.

    Hard to capture the true beauty of this quartz with my cellphone and the poor warehouse lighting.

  • PRO
    Diana Bier Interiors, LLC
    22 days ago

    Just make sure you know how the veins will appear before you purchase it. If you have to seam it anywhere, the veins could appear as a problem. We've seen this on these forums before.

  • PRO
    JAN MOYER
    22 days ago
    last modified: 22 days ago

    Whose quartz is it? and yes to everything Diana said above.

    Is it called "Golden Spider"?


  • degarthy
    Original Author
    22 days ago

    This is quartz

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    22 days ago

    Citi Quarz

    He is showing me his diagram and is able to have 2 continuous pieces (wall and countertop) without cutting. The seam will be in the curved part of the countertop. He will match the seams. Highly reputable and meticulous gentleman who knows what he’s doing.

    Thanks for your feedback and support.

  • PRO
    JAN MOYER
    22 days ago

    Golden spider?? Has a make and name?




    Or by another name?



  • degarthy
    Original Author
    22 days ago

    Citi Quartz has the numbers and not the names. It is my understanding that it is a new product as they did not have samples for it.

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    22 days ago

    Another view

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    22 days ago

    Good Morning

    The vendor does not have enough material for the island. Would something very plain/ more muted work OR should I go with a strong central piece for this island?

    We still want the material listed below for the walls and countertops.

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    22 days ago

    Island

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    14 days ago

    The contractor was lying. The warehouse has 12 slabs of the Akron quartz. (a new product). Got rid of that contractor and signed with a full-service company.

  • degarthy
    Original Author
    14 days ago

    Stay tuned 😊
    Gonna make this “cool/ warm” palette work!!